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Exciting times. I plan to get a Scarlet.
It's hard to tell the scale from these pics, I was hoping for a DSRL-kind of size for the Scarlet, but I'm afraid it will be twice that size. I sold my Red One cause I thought it turned out to be too bulky and didn't fit in my DV Rebel approach...
seems to be pretty small and lovely. Awesome!
It does look promising and I like the modular concept, but so much depends on real world handling. Will every knob be where you need it to be? Will the modules get in your way, like - the Breakout module is great but when I use it I have to twist my hand to reach some vital controls? The red folks are software developers form their mindset and they try do do everything they can. Which is cool, of course, but there is this thing called feature creep in SW development when you start doing too many things at once and you end up doing none of them perfectly. Yes, on paper, it looks exciting. But I will be excited about it when I used it in a shoot and it didn't get in my way. Then, and only then. (BTW Stu, your post on Pictures and Clarity hit the nail on the head!)
Very pretty.Basically the scarlet, configured as it was originally, will now be out of my price range at about $5k.The obvious s35 omitted high fps and, configured, ready to shoot, it is about $7000 MORE than a ready to shoot 5d2.Red was right... $3k out the door is the magic number. In my price bracket (which I believe is very common) the 5d looks good enough to buy right now. The dynamic range, skew and fps are the flaws. The skew being my biggest concern because of 3d tracking.I am sure there will be better alternatives than the 5d and the d90, at or around the same price, with at least some of the issues addressed available or on their way by the time the scarlet ships.Red is an indie cam. Indie film making was the revolution of the ninties.I see video going through the same sort of shake down that professional audio recording did in the music industry in the late 90's. The dream that a bedroom producer can achieve a quality that is negligibly inferior when experienced in real world conditions, which was then mp3 on white headphones.Red wants to sell 10,000 scarlets. They are not going to release 10,000 movies in theatres next year.How much better is a $10,000 24/30fps 35mm scarlet going to look than a $3k 5d when there is no possibility it will ever see the big screen?I bet a well lit dolly shot with a 5d2 will wipe the floor with a handheld scarlet with a few thousand bucks left to spare.This still isn't it.
I'll post here what I posted in the rebel forum...I've now seen the specs, seen the dates, and seen the prices. First off, I have to say kudos to the Red team for really trying to please "all of the people all of the time." The flexibility of this coming system is unparalleled. There is a setup for nearly every situation or need out there... for a price. And this is where things fail for me. Before when the original Scarlet was announced it was going to be a 3K 2/3" sensor, with a built-in lens and LCD for less than $3000. It was pretty basic, but it was a design that one could purchase and pretty much use out of the box if need be. Now, from what I can tell, the closest thing to that will be the Scarlet 2/3" body with fixed lens which will be at least $3K if not $3500 or more. Then one needs to add at the very least a viewfinder or LCD, that will bump up the price by at least another $500. I'm not sure if a power solution is included or not, not to mention a capture system. I'm sure those details will be revealed relatively soon.So in the end, while I find this very very cool, I also find it out of my purchasing range as a filmmaking hobbiest. I can't tell you how disappointing this is to me. So, for the moment Red's gear will remain out of my reach, but maybe in a few years that will change. For now, my search continues.....
I have to agree with you, boz.I think they have finally hit their target price point of 17,500$.To have a functioning Red One you almost had to spend 30,000$ before today. Now If you want your 35mm sensor fix, you can upgrade a 7000$ Scarlet with a bunch of accessories to make it usable, which should bring you somewhere around 15k.So yeah, it's cool but it's still expensive.
I'm all for small, dynamic companies challenging slow-moving giants, but I think the pricing here demonstrates the downside of being a small fry... Canon's FF35 camera is $2700, whereas Red is forced to charge $12000, probably due to the great expense of manufacturing the sensor.Overall, I'm let down by this announcement. Questions of price aside, I think Red just bit off about 7 cameras more than they can chew. Getting even one of these 8 new cameras to market would be a huge deal, so why not buckle down and announce them as you finish them? Color me skeptical, but there's no way they're releasing even half the number of cameras they've announced before the end of 2010.The bottom line is that I have a preorder in for a 5D MkII, and nothing I saw today was enough to make me cancel it. I love RAW files, but $12k for the 24MP FF35 Scarlet is way out of reach. If you can afford that, you're not a Rebel, you're a rich guy with the most expensive hobby this side of yachting.And honestly... a 6x17 camera? Was that really necessary? What's next, a 400MP 8x10" sensor?
Yes, and Canon's has an LCD, and buttons!
The pics look 'cool'. But is cool practical?At the time of shooting, is it "practical".